September 24, 2020

Rep. Tom Reed On Heath Care: Bill Empowers People, Allows Flexibility | MSNBC

>>> IT'S LIKE SPEAKING ANOTHER LANGUAGE WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

WAIVER THIS WAIVER THAT, PAPER THIS PAPER THAT.

HOW DO WE WADE THROUGH ALL THIS STUFF TO UNDERSTAND, THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IN A WAY THAT CAN BE UNDERSTOOD BY ALL AND THIS IS A HUMAN RIGHT.

>> THAT WAS A WOMAN AT A TOWN HALL FOR NEW YORK REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN TOM REED, ONE OF SEVERAL LAWMAKERS HEARING FRUSTRATION FROM THEIR CONSTITUENTS.

AT LEAST FOUR MORE ARE HOLDING TOWN HALLS TODAY AND WE WILL KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON THOSE EVENTS.

I WANT TO BRING IN CONGRESSMAN REED MEMBER OF THE WAYS AND MEANS COMMITTEE.

THANK YOU FOR HOLDING THAT TOWN HALL.

I KNOW IT'S NOT EASY.

YOU DID VOTE IN SUPPORT OF THIS BILL.

SO, I WANT TO GO THROUGH SOME OFTHE THINGS, NOT JUST THAT YOU HEARD AT THE TOWN HALL BUT SAID OVER THE WEEKEND.

WE HEARD FROM TOM PRICE WHO SAID, THE NEW PLAN WOULD BE MORE AFFORDABLE FOR THOSE WITH PREEXISTING CONDITIONS.

HOW IS THAT TRUE? >> WELL, WE PROTECT THE PREEXISTING CONDITION REFORM IN THE BASE LEGISLATION AND WHAT WE'RE OPENING IT UP TO IS IF SOMEONE HAS A BETTER IDEA, IF A STATE HAS A BETTER IDEA OF HOW TO SERVE THOSE FOLKS WITH PREEXISTING CONDITIONS WE GIVE THEM FLEXIBILITY TO MAKE THAT PITCH, MAKE THAT ARGUMENT, AND POTENTIALLY GET THAT APPROVED.

BUT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IT'S COLLAPSING AS WE SPEAK.

IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO TO TAKE THIS STEP FORWARD TO START FIXING THIS PROBLEM FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

>> WITHOUT A DOUBT, OBAMACARE HAS ITS PROBLEMS AND WE NEED TO TAKE A STEP FORWARD, BUT TO THISPOINT, YOU'RE SAYING IF THE STATES HAVE A SOLUTION YOU'RE OPEN TO IT.

WHAT IF THEY DON'T HAVE A SOLUTION, TO SAY PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO LOSE ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE, I HAVE ACCESS TO WALK IN AND BUY A FERRARI, I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY.

PEOPLE'S LIVES ARE AT STAKE.

SO HOW COULD YOU SUPPORT TOM PRICE SAYING, LISTEN, THIS IS GOING TO BE GREAT, PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE ACCESS.

IT'S GOING TO BE MORE AFFORDABLE.

HOW CAN YOU GUARANTEE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IT WILL BE MORE AFFORDABLE? >> BECAUSE EXACTLY THAT.

IF THE STATE DOES NOT MAKE THAT AP PLY KIGS FOR A WAIVER, THEN THOSE PREEXISTING CONDITION REFORMS CONTINUE FORWARD AS IS WITH THE GUARANTEED COMMUNITY ISSUE AND RATING AND WE NEED TO MOVE TO THE HEALTH CARE EQUATION AND GET A CONVERSATION GOING ACROSS AMERICA ABOUT HOW WE CAN START DELIVERING HEALTH CARE IN A EFFECTIVE, EFFICIENT WAY.

THAT'S THE THIRD PHASE OF WHAT WE'RE “INTREPID” TO TRYING TO PROPOSE.

>> JUST TO GO BACK, IF THE STATES DON'T HAVE A SOLUTION, AND YOU'LL BE COVERED BY THAT WAIVER IF YOU HAVE A PREEXISTINGCONDITION, THAT'S ONLY $8 BILLION.

IT'S GOING TO COST WAY MORE THAN THAT.

>> NO, THAT'S IF THE STATE GETS THE WAIVER AND THAT'S IF THE STATE APPLIES AND THEN THE STATES CAN ALSO TAP INTO THE INNOVATION MONEY THAT WE PUT INTO THIS BILL.

WHAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO DO IS TAKE CARE OF A PROBLEM THAT IS BEING CAUSED BY THE EXISTING LAWS WHERE ONE SIZE FITS ALL HEALTH CARE PROGRAM IS BEING FORCED DOWN THE AMERICAN HEALTH CARE SYSTEM.

TO US, IT'S NOT WORKING.

IT'S COLLAPSING.

I'VE HEARD THE STORIES, I'VE SEEN THE STORIES, AND WHAT WE DO IS WE TAKE THESE REFORMS THAT WORK, PREEXISTING CONDITION REFORM, AND WE BUILD OFF THEM AND CREATE BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO GET THIS UNDER CONTROL.

>> HAVE YOU READ THE BILL? >> OF COURSE I HAVE.

THAT'S MY JOB AS A LEGISLATURE AND WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THIS, BEING ON THE WAYS AND MEANS COMMITTEE, AND AS THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT CONTINUES TO COLLAPSE AND WE SEE THE PROBLEMSWITH IT ACROSS THE COUNTRY, WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD AND WE NEEDTO TAKE ON THIS ISSUE AND I WENT TO WASHINGTON TO SOLVE PROBLEMS AND I DO THAT BY LEGISLATING, READING THE BILL AND ADDRESSING THE PROBLEMS OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

>> PAUL RYAN SAID THAT NO ONE WILL BE HURT BY THE PLAN TO CUT $800 BILLION FROM MEDICAID.

WARREN BUFFET SAID HE LOOKS AT THIS PLAN LIKE IT'S SIMPLY A TAX BREAK FOR THE RICH THAT HOOKS GUYS LIKE HIM UP.

SO THAT $800 BILLION, IT'S NOT GOING TO HURT PEOPLE? >> YEAH.

THIS IS EXACTLY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OUR APPROACH TO IT AND FOLKS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE.

WHERE THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE ASSUMES MORE MONEY IS GOING TO SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS.

WE NEED TO DO IT BETTER BECAUSE HARD-WORKING TAXPAYERS CAN'T FOOT THIS BILL.

WE HAVE A NATIONAL DEBT CRISIS AND ON THE STATE LEVEL IN NEW YORK WE'RE SEEING PEOPLE FLEE BECAUSE OF THE TAX BURDENS THEY'RE HAVING PLACED ON THEIR BACKS.

>> WILL THE SENATE HAVE TO SCRATCH THIS AND START ANEW OR CAN THEY TAKE WHAT'S BEEN HANDED OVER AND ACTUALLY BUILD FROM IT?BECAUSE IF YOU THINK ABOUT PREEXISTING CONDITIONS, IF YOU THINK ABOUT MODERATE REPUBLICANS IN THE SENATE AND FREEDOM CAUCUSMEMBERS, HOW DO YOU MARRY ALL THESE DIFFERING GOALS? >> WELL, MY HOPE IS THE SENATE WILL ACT SOONER THAN LATER BECAUSE WE'RE SEEING PREMIUM NOTICES GO OUT HERE, 40% PREMIUMINCREASES ACROSS THE BOARD.

TO ME THAT IS UNACCEPTBLE.

>> CONGRESSMAN — >> WE'RE MOVING THE BALL FORWARDIN THE SENATE.

I DON'T HESITATE TO GUESS WHAT THE SENATE WILL DO.

>> I UNDERSTAND THE POINT YOU'REMAKING THAT OBAMACARE ISN'T WORKING.

BUT THE BILL THAT'S BEEN PASSED WHAT ABOUT IT WORKS? >> IT'S STARTING TO OPEN UP.

IT TAKES THE MANDATES OFF THAT ONE SIZE FITS ALL APPROACH AND STARTS RELIEVING THAT TYPE OF APPROACH TO HEALTH CARE AND ALLOW PEOPLE TO BE EMPOWERED ANDALLOW STATES SOME FLEXIBILITY IF THEY CAN COME UP WITH A BETTER WAY TO START UNDOING WHAT IS BEING CAUSED BY THE LAWS THAT EXIST TODAY.

>> YOU DON'T WORRY IT EMPOWERS HEALTH INSURERS TO JACK THEIR RATES OF SICK PEOPLE? >> NO.

BECAUSE THOSE BASE REFORMS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PREEXISTING CONDITIONS, COMMUNITY RATING, ARE THERE.

AND IF THE WAIVER GOES THROUGH, I'M VERY CONFIDENT THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES WON'T APPROVE A WAIVER UNLESS IT CAN SHOW HEALTH CARE IS BEING DELIVERED IN A BETTER WAY NOT GOING BACKWARDS INTO THEWAYS OF THE PAST.

>> ALL RIGHT.

CONGRESSMAN, THANKS FOR YO .

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